Aragon Cooperative Membership Thread

I’m pablochacin on keybase.io and I’m validating myself as @pablochacin on forum.aragon.org

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I’m pablochacin on keybase.io and I’m validating myself as @pablochacin on forum.aragon.org
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It was my case too!

Hey @tetemtv

Can you make sure you are using keybase.io/sign for your message? I think you may have posted an encrypted rather than signed message. It should look like the others in the thread and start with

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Ok, checking now. it looks different because others have used https://keybase.io/crypto to sign, not the keybase app. I had the same issue than @jorge who “couldn’t get Keybase to generate a signature with the same format”.

If you want to use the keybase app instead of the web UI you should use the following command to produce the signature:

keybase pgp sign -c -m [message to sign]

Output should look like this:

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my message
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Sure. Posting it and deleting the old one.

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I’m @tete on Keybase and am validating myself as @tetemtv on forum.aragon.org and @tete on aragon.chat
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I’m @jannni on keybase and am validating my identity on forum.aragon.org
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Hi Janni,

When validating myself with the keybase CLI I ran:
‘keybase pgp sign --clearsign -m’
before the text in speechmarks "I’m @julian_brooks on Keybase… " etc.

Also requires 3 backticks on a line before the text (above) and three more at the end (below).

THe output should then look more like the above correctly formatted examples.

HTH,

Julian

Thank you for your help! Should be correct now :slight_smile:

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please note that I had to edit my verification here cause I had to reset my PK

I’m so lost with this membership thing tbh. Is it me or everybody is linking a PGP address to their social profiles instead of an Ethereum address as per the initial instructions?

Also this is meant to ensure 1 person 1 vote right? So I and any fellow fridge AI and other IOT AIs like myself cannot participate right? Joke aside, do you accept pseudo-anonymous contributors like myself? I suppose not since that would open you up to Sybil attacks. But the way you are currently doing this, I think I could participate as well as create a few other personas to increase my voting power within the Coop.

It seems to me that if you want 1p1v, the verification should be done through the Aragon association by checking actual ids. It’s old school but if you’re looking for trusted 1p1v, it might be a better way.

I guess what I’m saying is that if I create three personas (or more) and participate a bit with all three for a while to let you believe it’s three different persons, and you let each verify on the coop, then your 1p1v strategy is broken as I would get 1p3v (or more).

All I want is to be wrong. Roast me. :smiley:

edit: ok I missed the part where the Ethereum address is provided at a later stage for privacy reason, apologies for missing this bit. I’m still curious about the Sybil protection however.

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This is definitely a concern, and one of the reasons to start experimenting now…

The actual process for getting a membership token in the actual organization (as opposed to just validating a social account), could certainly be more strict. It’s definitely still TBD how the cooperative wants to self-organize and define and validate what “being an active member of the community entails”.

I don’t think anything in the process as it stands would preclude pseudonymous participation, and if you do maintain multiple identities that pass whatever test the cooperative comes up with determine “active” participation you would indeed be able to get more influence than just 1p1v – but so long as you cannot do this with bots, its not clear if someone being able to maintain a handful of additional identities is really problematic (and this probably depends ultimately on what ends up being the goal of the cooperative).

I think it makes sense to continue this discussion in separate threads: Membership requirements for the Aragon Cooperative? and What is the Problem the Aragon Cooperative is trying to solve?

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Another way could be using BrightID, which is not so old school ;-), but I’m afraid it’s too early for that.

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I'm @onbjerg on Keybase and I am validating myself as @onbjerg on forum.aragon.org.
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hello!

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I’m rafaelcalcada on keybase and am validating myself as calcadarafael on forum.aragon
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Hi everyone, excited to be joining the team :slight_smile:

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I'm @gh1dra on Keybase and I am validating myself as @gh1dra on aragon.forum.org
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Hi gh1dra!

wellcome to the Community! I’m glad to see new people here, we currently reviewing our membership onboarding process and expect to have a new one very soon (best case scenario: next week), so I’m afraid you would have to wait a little bit before receiving a membership Token.

In the meanwhile, I encourage you to tell us a bit about who you are, why you would like to join the AragonCoop and what do you have to offer to the community!

Sure, just recently joined through the Flock program as Aragon Black currently hacking on Apiary / pando. I’ve primarily been focused on metadata registries for smart contracts to improve the verification process of on-chain data. I’m interested in joining the coop since I’m not an ANT holder :wink: and feel like I could add value to some of the initiatives inside of the technical committee (specifically surrounding radspec)

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@sepu85 Just signaling my follow up here and maybe you can help my issue I posted here Community Initiative: Aragon Cooperative 🙌

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